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	<title>Comments on: THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW: There Will Be Bloods</title>
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		<title>By: Bdogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bdogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been living in the 215 for a stretch now &amp; you know what I rep...i&#039;m a L.a nigga &amp; all that hateing add up to nothing. I had some run ins wit philly niggaz since I been here &amp; i&#039;m still standing, had 2 put a lil work in but let me stop becausa a nigga aint fin ta snitch on himself &amp; no disrespect but philadelphia is a playground compared to L.a even tho philly was the murder capitol for a couple of years blood. My peoples from right here in philly seen a program on tv &amp; told me that it stated some murders in L.a are not being recorded so that the city can make the murder rate lower &amp; so the people won&#039;t move away from cali &amp; to keep people moving in. In L.A in da hood people can&#039;t just walk around in any hood like you can in philly...you&#039;ll get smoked right away blood! 1st day homey! if you don&#039;t have a pass &amp; a strap aint enough...it aint gon serve you but here in philly I been in every neighborhood, flamed up wit red rags, L.a fitted cap by myself &amp; had no problems from no nigga for roaming around. I hold my own like a man str8t soldier even tho i&#039;m not active in the gang life anymore...the landscape might change but the nigga remains the same &amp; we aint trying to recruit any nigga from philly, gangbangin is a westside...my badd BESTSIDE thing palm tree&#039;s &amp; bomb weed. I know all niggaz in philly can&#039;t be ridin the mob but majority of deez niggaz that I run accross eatin joey merlino&#039;s dick, niggaz like that get&#039;s no respect...&amp; on the coast merlino! get&#039;s no pass, we don&#039;t ride on nobody&#039;s jock but on the other hand I have some respect for your city because i&#039;m a real nigga &amp; it&#039;s foul to dis a niggaz city but fuck the bustas fake phoney niggaz in philly dissin on the coast, all those disrespectful comments you can shuv str8t up your asshole homey! you bitch niggaz might like it. No dis 2 my real niggaz in the 215 &amp; I know only the haters will send a diss, we call em busta &amp; marks I expect a response from you on some weak shit because bitch niggaz are in every city even L.a &amp; I know your type so handle your business but after this serving there will be no sequel...I said my piece &amp; it&#039;s real, some time you can lie to yourself but when the real prevail...the truth hurts! back home in L.a &amp; in other states that I been in &amp; I been in most, philadelphia aint even on the radar...anyway  BPS Black P Stone Bloods, west L.a Crenshaw district, Baldwin Park homey, we don&#039;t hate...wherever we go we dominate! Str8t like dat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been living in the 215 for a stretch now &amp; you know what I rep&#8230;i&#8217;m a L.a nigga &amp; all that hateing add up to nothing. I had some run ins wit philly niggaz since I been here &amp; i&#8217;m still standing, had 2 put a lil work in but let me stop becausa a nigga aint fin ta snitch on himself &amp; no disrespect but philadelphia is a playground compared to L.a even tho philly was the murder capitol for a couple of years blood. My peoples from right here in philly seen a program on tv &amp; told me that it stated some murders in L.a are not being recorded so that the city can make the murder rate lower &amp; so the people won&#8217;t move away from cali &amp; to keep people moving in. In L.A in da hood people can&#8217;t just walk around in any hood like you can in philly&#8230;you&#8217;ll get smoked right away blood! 1st day homey! if you don&#8217;t have a pass &amp; a strap aint enough&#8230;it aint gon serve you but here in philly I been in every neighborhood, flamed up wit red rags, L.a fitted cap by myself &amp; had no problems from no nigga for roaming around. I hold my own like a man str8t soldier even tho i&#8217;m not active in the gang life anymore&#8230;the landscape might change but the nigga remains the same &amp; we aint trying to recruit any nigga from philly, gangbangin is a westside&#8230;my badd BESTSIDE thing palm tree&#8217;s &amp; bomb weed. I know all niggaz in philly can&#8217;t be ridin the mob but majority of deez niggaz that I run accross eatin joey merlino&#8217;s dick, niggaz like that get&#8217;s no respect&#8230;&amp; on the coast merlino! get&#8217;s no pass, we don&#8217;t ride on nobody&#8217;s jock but on the other hand I have some respect for your city because i&#8217;m a real nigga &amp; it&#8217;s foul to dis a niggaz city but fuck the bustas fake phoney niggaz in philly dissin on the coast, all those disrespectful comments you can shuv str8t up your asshole homey! you bitch niggaz might like it. No dis 2 my real niggaz in the 215 &amp; I know only the haters will send a diss, we call em busta &amp; marks I expect a response from you on some weak shit because bitch niggaz are in every city even L.a &amp; I know your type so handle your business but after this serving there will be no sequel&#8230;I said my piece &amp; it&#8217;s real, some time you can lie to yourself but when the real prevail&#8230;the truth hurts! back home in L.a &amp; in other states that I been in &amp; I been in most, philadelphia aint even on the radar&#8230;anyway  BPS Black P Stone Bloods, west L.a Crenshaw district, Baldwin Park homey, we don&#8217;t hate&#8230;wherever we go we dominate! Str8t like dat!</p>
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		<title>By: terrance durrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrance durrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I know the hood I&#039;m from in north niggas iz hungry and aggitated ready to die. Dey don&#039;t give afuck who u iz they will murk you flat out shit get real how u beef wit a nigga you live down da sreet from a knew ya whole life to be a pussy. And he get a gun pop hiz zanies smoke his wet now he a stone cold killer murkin everything for nothing but a conversation about what he did dat ain&#039;t tuff at all riding for a color red,blue,yellow, dat ain&#039;t tuff etheir but shit is real out here dem gangs really got history and niggas dat did time behind dat shit so it ain&#039;t gonna just die out  any color except green as in money dats our(niggas in philly) only friend see how we feel wit out it see how you can function wit it bloods and crips won&#039;t get respect in north philly trust me  the through niggas I know from da norris st jects is not bloods just hustling ass goons that won&#039;t hesitate to push ya shit back deffinetely no bloods doe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I know the hood I&#8217;m from in north niggas iz hungry and aggitated ready to die. Dey don&#8217;t give afuck who u iz they will murk you flat out shit get real how u beef wit a nigga you live down da sreet from a knew ya whole life to be a pussy. And he get a gun pop hiz zanies smoke his wet now he a stone cold killer murkin everything for nothing but a conversation about what he did dat ain&#8217;t tuff at all riding for a color red,blue,yellow, dat ain&#8217;t tuff etheir but shit is real out here dem gangs really got history and niggas dat did time behind dat shit so it ain&#8217;t gonna just die out  any color except green as in money dats our(niggas in philly) only friend see how we feel wit out it see how you can function wit it bloods and crips won&#8217;t get respect in north philly trust me  the through niggas I know from da norris st jects is not bloods just hustling ass goons that won&#8217;t hesitate to push ya shit back deffinetely no bloods doe.</p>
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		<title>By: DR.JACKSON</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR.JACKSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Been All Over The World and been to mostly every state in the U.S And No City Is Like Philly......Philly Is Not A Gang City...I Mean They Rep What Block There From But Thats About it....if gangs try to work there way in To Philly They Will Get Killed by the people who stay in philly or the cops ..nobody from Philly is gone let some out of town people come it and take over there and the drug dealers is not gone let gangs member sell drugs on there block taking money from the Philly Drug dealer who got to take care of there kids or family...Philly is not gone let that happen in a million years....dont matter is u crip or blood MS-13 LATIN KING where gangs will never take over Philly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Been All Over The World and been to mostly every state in the U.S And No City Is Like Philly&#8230;&#8230;Philly Is Not A Gang City&#8230;I Mean They Rep What Block There From But Thats About it&#8230;.if gangs try to work there way in To Philly They Will Get Killed by the people who stay in philly or the cops ..nobody from Philly is gone let some out of town people come it and take over there and the drug dealers is not gone let gangs member sell drugs on there block taking money from the Philly Drug dealer who got to take care of there kids or family&#8230;Philly is not gone let that happen in a million years&#8230;.dont matter is u crip or blood MS-13 LATIN KING where gangs will never take over Philly.</p>
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		<title>By: Shakeya Holmes</title>
		<link>http://www.phawker.com/2008/04/08/the-valley-of-the-shadow-there-will-be-bloods/#comment-84921</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakeya Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like when did yall ever hear of bloods n norris street projects u disrespectful for say the project boys u piece of shit like u dont know nothing like u saying it like they are not human beings like get ya fucking mind right before u talk shit get ya sources right bitch!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like when did yall ever hear of bloods n norris street projects u disrespectful for say the project boys u piece of shit like u dont know nothing like u saying it like they are not human beings like get ya fucking mind right before u talk shit get ya sources right bitch!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JENONWILLIAMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JENONWILLIAMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF KNOW WHAT U R TALKING ABOUT U SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT KEVIN AND NOT NO BLOODS. HE WASNT A BLOOD AND NOBODY FROM AROUND THE WAY WAS HIS FAVORITE COLOR WAS RED AND ITS THE PROJECTS PEOPLE SMOKE WEAD U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US AND HOW WE LIVE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF KNOW WHAT U R TALKING ABOUT U SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT KEVIN AND NOT NO BLOODS. HE WASNT A BLOOD AND NOBODY FROM AROUND THE WAY WAS HIS FAVORITE COLOR WAS RED AND ITS THE PROJECTS PEOPLE SMOKE WEAD U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US AND HOW WE LIVE</p>
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		<title>By: deeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>deeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your friend, Jay.  Why do you think it&#039;s taken so long for the Bloods to start making inroads into the Philly gang culture?  I understand that they&#039;ve been around here and there, on the fringes, for a long time but now there does seem to be some organizing and a greater presence citywide.  Why now?  Why not ten years ago?

Doron at the City Paper laid out really well how local gangs have resisted national influence in this article from 2004:

&quot;The gangs from the &#039;70s are not coming back. Those gangs were huge and meticulously organized. Today&#039;s groups are not. Nor are large national gangs, such as the Bloods or the Crips, taking root in Philadelphia...There have been rumblings that Asian youths here have been calling themselves Bloods and Crips, and that the city is seeing a surge in its Latin King population. These communities do have gangs, but national gangs traditionally have a hard time taking root in Philly. At an April city summit on gangs, a Department of Human Services employee, Jascinth Scott-Findley, said that when Philadelphia youths get sent to detention centers in the South, they often come back claiming to belong to the Bloods or the Crips, and are immediately reminded, &#039;You&#039;re in Philadelphia now.&#039; The biggest concern in Philadelphia seems to be the small groups of kids taking the names of old local gangs.&quot;

http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2004-12-16/cover.shtml

Doron heard that the influence might be coming from down south.  I&#039;ve read elsewhere that it&#039;s coming from New York, by way of Jersey.  As I stated above, I don&#039;t think the intelligence is there quite yet to say for sure where it&#039;s coming from, but the influence is most certainly there and not letting up.  The Brickyard Mafia, one of the Germantown gangs profiled in Doron&#039;s article, was resistant to national influence four years ago when he wrote the article, now there&#039;s BYM CRIP graffiti all over their part of town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your friend, Jay.  Why do you think it&#8217;s taken so long for the Bloods to start making inroads into the Philly gang culture?  I understand that they&#8217;ve been around here and there, on the fringes, for a long time but now there does seem to be some organizing and a greater presence citywide.  Why now?  Why not ten years ago?</p>
<p>Doron at the City Paper laid out really well how local gangs have resisted national influence in this article from 2004:</p>
<p>&#8220;The gangs from the &#8217;70s are not coming back. Those gangs were huge and meticulously organized. Today&#8217;s groups are not. Nor are large national gangs, such as the Bloods or the Crips, taking root in Philadelphia&#8230;There have been rumblings that Asian youths here have been calling themselves Bloods and Crips, and that the city is seeing a surge in its Latin King population. These communities do have gangs, but national gangs traditionally have a hard time taking root in Philly. At an April city summit on gangs, a Department of Human Services employee, Jascinth Scott-Findley, said that when Philadelphia youths get sent to detention centers in the South, they often come back claiming to belong to the Bloods or the Crips, and are immediately reminded, &#8216;You&#8217;re in Philadelphia now.&#8217; The biggest concern in Philadelphia seems to be the small groups of kids taking the names of old local gangs.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2004-12-16/cover.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2004-12-16/cover.shtml</a></p>
<p>Doron heard that the influence might be coming from down south.  I&#8217;ve read elsewhere that it&#8217;s coming from New York, by way of Jersey.  As I stated above, I don&#8217;t think the intelligence is there quite yet to say for sure where it&#8217;s coming from, but the influence is most certainly there and not letting up.  The Brickyard Mafia, one of the Germantown gangs profiled in Doron&#8217;s article, was resistant to national influence four years ago when he wrote the article, now there&#8217;s BYM CRIP graffiti all over their part of town.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloods and crips have been, I say again BEEN in Philadelphia. I had a friend killed YEARS ago becuase of that BS.

JUDGE DISMISSES MURDER CASE VS. CRIPS

Source: Dave Racher, Daily News Staff Writer
The Bloods may have won the South Philadelphia ``turf war&#039;&#039; that resulted in two deaths and several injuries on May 28, but the Crips won the battle in the courtroom. Two frightened teen-agers took the Fifth Amendment yesterday, refusing to implicate four reputed Crips gang members charged in one of the killings. So, after a six-hour preliminary hearing, Municipal Judge Felice Rowley Stack dismissed murder, conspiracy and aggravated assault charges against the four,

Published on October 9, 1997, Page 16, Philadelphia Daily News (PA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloods and crips have been, I say again BEEN in Philadelphia. I had a friend killed YEARS ago becuase of that BS.</p>
<p>JUDGE DISMISSES MURDER CASE VS. CRIPS</p>
<p>Source: Dave Racher, Daily News Staff Writer<br />
The Bloods may have won the South Philadelphia &#8220;turf war&#8221; that resulted in two deaths and several injuries on May 28, but the Crips won the battle in the courtroom. Two frightened teen-agers took the Fifth Amendment yesterday, refusing to implicate four reputed Crips gang members charged in one of the killings. So, after a six-hour preliminary hearing, Municipal Judge Felice Rowley Stack dismissed murder, conspiracy and aggravated assault charges against the four,</p>
<p>Published on October 9, 1997, Page 16, Philadelphia Daily News (PA)</p>
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